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And we also know that the despicable circus highlighted carefully selected video that was (they claimed) vetted for security but the capitol police called a bullshit on that, and apparently some of the video shows escape routes (Pelosi and Pence to be precise).

So much for THIS IS A SECURITY ISSUE!!

next.

 

We all already know what will happen if I ask for proof...

 

You can appologize for being so nasty after you read the article.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/house-gop-leaders-defend-giving-192200755.html

And since stumbler posted the article first, his smarmy remark exposes him for an ass.
But we already knew that, eh?

 

You mean this one?

 

And here again it just screams the question just how fucking stupid and ignorant do they think we are or just how fucking stupid and ignorant are they? Its too fucking late. The videos have already been released. But to just one man in a glaring quid pro quo where McCarthy gives the tapes to Carlson for his ratings and Carlson who just fucked Kevin The Coward up the ass when he was thing to become speaker reverses course and starts to be nice to him on his TV show. There are no precautions they can take now because they already handed the videos over to a proven in court liar, propagandist, and Putin supporter. What's their plan now. Hey Tucker we will give you the videos but you have to swear honest Injun not to copy them, distribute them to far right domestic terrorists or Putin and only broadcast the ones we say are OK? Sure says Tucker. You can trust me every bit as much as my viewers can.


You Literally Can't Believe The Facts Tucker Carlson Tells You. So Say Fox's Lawyers

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/9177...s-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye



McCarthy, GOP pump brakes on release of Jan. 6 footage to Tucker Carlson
by Emily Brooks and Mike Lillis - 02/28/23 6:40 PM ET

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House Republicans are pumping the brakes on the release of Jan. 6 surveillance footage they’ve offered to Fox News host Tucker Carlson and going on offense against Democrats who have spent the past week slamming the move.

Republican leaders are emphasizing that no clips will be broadcast without prior security clearance while accusing Democrats of neglecting the same precautions during the investigation by the House select committee last year — a charge the Democrats quickly rejected.


Carlson, Fox’s wildly popular conservative pundit, said last week that he would begin airing footage from the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot this week, after Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) offered him what Carlson described as “unfettered” exclusive access to more than 40,000 hours of unreleased surveillance tape starting earlier in the month.

Yet McCarthy and other Republicans, following days of silence on the topic, made clear Tuesday that no information would be released to Carlson’s team — let alone broadcast publicly — before the footage is screened to ensure it doesn’t compromise the security of the Capitol complex.

The Speaker said Republicans are working with the U.S. Capitol Police to ensure that’s the case.

“It’s many more hours of tape than we were ever told. They said at the beginning it was like, 14,000 hours. There’s roughly almost 42,000 hours. We’re working through that. We work with the Capitol Police as well, so we’ll make sure security is taken care of,” McCarthy told reporters in the Capitol.

“There’s certain parts that he wanted to see,” McCarthy said of Carlson, but stressed that the Fox News host’s team specifically said they do not want to see “exit routes.”

“They’re not interested in it. They don’t want to show that,” McCarthy said.


McCarthy’s statement was a shot at the Jan. 6 select committee for airing footage showing then-Vice President Mike Pence leaving the Senate chamber after rioters stormed into the Capitol in a failed effort to prevent Congress from certifying President Biden’s election victory.

The footage did not show Pence’s full route out of the Capitol, and members of the investigative committee said they took pains to clear each video clip with leaders of the Capitol Police before broadcasting them.

“What we showed to the public was video that we vetted through general counsel, we vetted through the chief of the Capitol Police,” Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), chairman of the since-dissolved Jan. 6 committee, told reporters Tuesday. “And under no circumstances did we push out anything that we felt that would have violated any aspect of the security of this area.”


McCarthy, though, cast doubt on the Democrats’ narrative, saying members of the Capitol Police force have informed him directly that not all footage from the Jan. 6 select committee was screened.

“There’s times when the Capitol Police told me that they didn’t consult with them either on some of these routes, so that’s a concern,” McCarthy said.

The Capitol Police did not immediately respond to a request for comment.


McCarthy said that he expects the security footage to be widely released “as soon as possible,” but would not “predetermine” the format of such a release.

McCarthy told The Hill that he has not spoken personally to Carlson about the Jan. 6 footage.

McCarthy also criticized the Jan. 6 select committee for airing clips that showed his staff members being evacuated from his office wing.


“They went in and they showed our office … because they have a camera in our office. They never talked to any of us about it,” said McCarthy, who did not cooperate with the Jan. 6 select committee after it issued a subpoena to question him.

House Majority Leader Steve Scalise (R-La.) also raised concerns about footage released by the Jan. 6 select committee, pointing to then-Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-Calif.) daughter filming a documentary in a secure location where congressional leaders were kept during the riot.

But Democrats are also pointing fingers, voicing their own doubts that Republicans are adopting strong security protocols as they share the footage with Carlson, who has downplayed the violence on Jan. 6 and promoted conspiracy theories about the riot being orchestrated by Trump’s political adversaries.


Thompson said his office has been asking for — but not received — written procedures governing how the many hours of footage would released, and then used.

“If they don’t have anything in writing … then I say it’s a bad idea,” Thompson said.

Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-Ga.), chairman of the House Administration Subcommittee on Oversight, said that his panel is still working through those procedures.


“We’re working on putting protocols together and policies and procedures and schedules,” Loudermilk said.

While Carlson’s team has full access to watch the tens of thousands of hours of footage, Loudermilk said, he will work with the sergeant-at-arms and Capitol Police to ensure that any copies of that footage given to Carlson do not pose security risks.

“There hasn’t been a release of tapes,” Loudermilk said. “It’s basically controlled access to be able to view tapes. Can’t record, can’t take anything with you. Then they will request any particular clips that — that they may need, and then we’ll make sure that there’s nothing sensitive, nothing classified — you know, escape routes.”

The fierce debate over the release of the full Jan. 6 footage — and the appropriateness of granting exclusive access to Carlson — comes as McCarthy fights to solidify support from some Republicans wary that the new Speaker lacks the conservative bona fides to take on Biden and the Washington “swamp.”

Some of those critics said McCarthy had promised them, during the hard-fought Speaker’s balloting, that he would release the full library of Jan. 6 footage in return for their support. Carlson himself also suggested that McCarthy pledge to release the tapes to earn support for the Speakership.

McCarthy denied that claim on Tuesday. While he has said in other comments and in a fundraising email that he had “promised” to release the footage, he said that was a reference to a question in a press conference last month, not because of negotiations during the Speaker’s election.

“I’m just following through on that,” he said Tuesday.

It’s unclear if McCarthy’s most vocal Republican detractors — whose backing he needs to pass legislation in a narrowly divided House — will accept a more limited release of the footage.

Carlson, Fox’s most popular commentator, has been among McCarthy’s most prominent, if not most frequent, right-wing critics. And McCarthy’s decision to share the Jan. 6 footage exclusively with Carlson has led to accusations that the Speaker is simply coddling up to the popular host to save his own political hide.

“The Speaker is saying that this is about public accountability and transparency. But that is totally belied by the fact that he gave it to one extreme person in the media,” said Rep. Katherine Clark (Mass.), the Democratic whip.

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The choice of Carlson is under additional scrutiny this week following revelations — released as part of an ongoing defamation lawsuit against Fox News — that he was among the network pundits furious that Fox had correctly called Arizona for Biden. Carlson, at the time, voiced concern that the accurate reporting would drive Fox viewers to other conservative outlets, which continued to report Trump’s lies about a stolen election.

McCarthy defended the choice of Carlson on Tuesday, accusing the Jan. 6 select committee of handing surveillance footage to outlets favored by liberal viewers, including CNN and MSNBC.

“Have you ever had an exclusive? I see it on your networks all the time,” McCarthy said to a group of reporters that included correspondents from CNN and MSNBC.



https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...n-release-of-jan-6-footage-to-tucker-carlson/

 

The more the despicables twirl and stamp their feet about the capitol tapes, the more brilliant McCarthy's move becomes.

They cannot possibly now sweep this issue under the rug, rather they must address the tapes and what they show.
If they show that Trump fomented an insurrection, so be it.
If they show that the Nancy Antoinette star chamber goons politicized and propagandized, then so be it.

We don't need the fucking politicians telling us what happened.
We need them to let us see for ourselves.
Cause we know those fucks lie and don't have our best interests at heart.

 

I wonder it @silkythighs could come up with squawking parrot meme for me. It would save me a lot pf typing.

 

Didja see?
Carlson is teasing his show for next week, when he will release TOP SECRET CAPITOL VIDEOS THAT PROVE THEY ARE LYING!!!!!


It would seem Tucker is out to out tease the Nancy Antoinette star chamber prime time circus teases. Member them?
The "bombshell" announcements that we'll see "previously unseen footage of the carnage on January 6"? and the "See firsthand the proof of the insurrection on January 6", and our favorite "Trump staffer to give damning testimony"

 

More Americans disapprove of McCarthy sharing Jan. 6 footage with Carlson than approve: poll

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More Americans disapprove of Speaker Kevin McCarthy’s (R-Calif.) decision to share Capitol surveillance footage from the Jan. 6 riot exclusively with Fox News host Tucker Carlson than approve, according to a new poll released on Wednesday.

Forty-three percent in The Economist-YouGov poll said they either strongly or somewhat disapprove of McCarthy’s decision, while 35 percent said they approve. Another 22 percent remain unsure.

Republicans were more likely than Democrats to approve of the Speaker’s decision to release the footage to the conservative pundit. Just over half of Republicans in the survey — 55 percent — said they strongly or somewhat approve of the release of the footage, while 63 percent of Democrats said they disapproved.

Reports first emerged last week that McCarthy had granted Carlson access to more than 40,000 hours of footage from around the time of the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol.

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“I promised,” McCarthy told The New York Times last week of his decision. “I was asked in the press about these tapes, and I said they do belong to the American public. I think sunshine lets everybody make their own judgment.”

However, Democrats have slammed the decision as an “egregious security breach.” Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) called it “one of the worst security risks” to the Capitol complex since 9/11.

“The footage Speaker McCarthy is making available to Fox News is a treasure trove of closely held information about how the Capitol complex is protected and its public release would compromise the safety of the Legislative Branch and allow those who want to commit another attack to learn how Congress is safeguarded,” Schumer said.

McCarthy and House Republicans have since pumped the brakes on the release of the footage and vowed that it would not be released or broadcast without first being screened for security risks.

“It’s many more hours of tape than we were ever told,” McCarthy told reporters. “They said at the beginning it was like, 14,000 hours. There’s roughly almost 42,000 hours. We’re working through that. We work with the Capitol Police as well, so we’ll make sure security is taken care of.”

The Economist-YouGov poll was conducted Feb. 25-28 with 1,500 U.S. adults and had a margin of error of 3.2 percentage points.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/more-americans-disapprove-mccarthy-sharing-213422141.html

 

Betcha those numbers change when Tucker starts exposing the tapes to us, as should have been two years ago.

 

There were a thousand charges laid against US citizens. Innocent until proven guilty. The need for this evidence to be made public isn’t more important than fair trials. Trump will be judged by history as morally culpable for Jan 6th.
Trump should hang around the necks of the Republicans that put him power.Maybe run him again and see how that goes.

 

So shooter watched a documentary on Pelosi and was able to identify all these security vulnerabilities...

I doubt shooter watched anything. I bet everything he wrote he is what he found elsewhere, something someone else wrote...

 

The thousand or so vermin who attacked the capitol and have been charged will surely have their day in court (half already have). The release of the tapes does not have to impact their right to a fair trial, if it is an issue that piece of tape can be held, and if the government really does think something will harm security they can withhold that.

The despicables however have claimed all 41,000 hours (except what Nancy's star chamber bunch used for propaganda) are security related and that is clearly bullshit on it's face. They've even demonized forum members claiming they don't care about security.

The capitol is a public building. It's blueprints are public record. Anyone can ask for a tour of the capitol and see whatever pleases them, and they are welcome to wander about, with their video/cameras rolling. Shooter has a picture of him sitting in a senators chair, in his office, unescorted. This was taken by his wife when we last visited Washington, and no, it was not on January 6. For despicables to claim that video of January 6 will somehow compromise security is a smokescreen. They are clearly wanting to hide something. The question is, what, and why?

It cannot be emphasized enough; the capitol is a public building, and that includes just about every office, hallway, corridor and elevator there. Making the tapes of January 6 public would not change that. The despicables are using it for a smokescreen to hide something.
The question is, what, and why.

As far as your opinion of Trump, you are welcome to it. History will judge him. It will be a more accurate judgement when the transcripts, evidence, and tapes of January 6 are released. It occurs to shooter, if the evidence the despicables gathered indeed proves Trump fomented an insurrection, they would want it all made public, right?
That they claim what it supposedly proves, but don't want us to see it, should make anyone suspicous, deplorable or despicable, or Canadian, eh?

 

Jan. 6 judge bemused by Kevin McCarthy handing riot video to Fox News

Mary Papenfuss
March 03, 2023



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A federal judge presiding over the criminal case of a Jan. 6 protester is calling for access to surveillance tapes of the 2021 Capitol riot that Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) has announced he's turning over exclusively to Fox News.

The tapes involve relevant information to the case U.S. District Court Judge Rudolph Contreras is hearing regarding defendant William Pope of Topeka, Contreras noted Friday via a video conference in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, The Kansas City Star reported.

Pope has been hit with eight charges linked to the riot, including felony civil disruption and obstruction of an official proceeding. The defendant, who is acting as his own attorney, has called on the judge to order the release of the videos which he claims show undercover Metropolitan Police officers inciting protesters. It's a conspiracy theory that Donald Trump supporters and Fox News itself have supported in the past.

“I’d like to hear more from the government on what I’m reading in the papers about production of the CCTV [closed circuit television] video to Tucker Carlson and, after a point of exclusivity, to other news outlets,” Contreras said, the Star reported.

McCarthy sparked a storm of controversy after he decided last month to turn over some 40,000 hours of surveillance video of the Capitol riot exclusively to Fox News, a network that has disseminated Trump's baseless claims about a rigged election. McCarthy said last week that he would make the tapes accessible to other media outlets after an exclusive period for Fox.

Contreras said it's currently confusing which defendants are being granted access to videos that may be relevant to their cases.

Disclosures are apparently being made on a case-by-case basis, and may be decided by McCarthy's office and police, the judge noted.

“I don’t know what ‘case-by-case basis’ means and why the [House] speaker gets to choose which defendants get to see what,” Contreras said. “I know that the Capitol Police is not the speaker’s office. But it seems from what I’m reading in the papers that the Capitol Police has been involved in those discussions.”

The judge demanded a sworn declaration from the Capitol Police within two weeks “as to ... whether there’s been any restrictions whatsoever as to what the press can do with those CCTV videos once they receive them," the Star reported.

“From what I read, [Fox News'] Tucker Carlson seems to think he has unfettered discretion what he can do with those videos …This circuit has said you have to guard privileges like crown jewels. If the press is given unfettered access to these videos, they don’t seem to be treating these things like crown jewels,” Contreras declared.

Pope’s next hearing is scheduled for April 3.

There was no immediate response from McCarthy's office or the Capitol police.

https://www.rawstory.com/jan-6-2659498416/

 

HOORAY for transparent government!

 

I would imagine almost all J6 defendants will try and take this route. And if denied and?or convicted they will claim on appeal the government withheld evidence from them. And I am sure whatever Carlson comes up with will be to their benefit since he is already claiming J6 was a false flag conspiracy and those charged are political prisoners.


Judge denies Jan. 6 defendant’s bid for time to review McCarthy’s Capitol security footage

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Fri, March 3, 2023 at 3:16 PM MST


A federal judge on Friday denied a Jan. 6 defendant’s request to delay her imminent trial in order to review thousands of hours of security footage recently made available by Speaker Kevin McCarthy.

U.S. District Court Judge James Boasberg said he understood why Sara Carpenter — who is facing two felony charges for her actions at the Capitol — would like time to review the material. But he said she had failed to explain why any additional footage of her movements inside the building would be exculpatory, particularly when prosecutors had already turned over footage of the vast majority of Carpenter’s 34 minutes inside the building.

Boasberg worried that widely permitting Jan. 6 defendants to slow down their criminal proceedings in order to review this footage could “derail dozens of trials that are set in the next few months.” Boasberg — who is set to become Washington D.C.’s chief district court judge later this month — suggested that to support a delay, he would need defense attorneys to proffer what the newly disclosed videos might show that would be helpful to their clients’ cases.

Boasberg’s ruling is the latest ripple caused by McCarthy’s decision to widen access to 44,000 hours of Capitol security footage from Jan. 6. The Capitol Police had previously turned over about 14,000 hours of the day’s footage that leaders said encompassed crucial time periods of the riot, as well as the relevant camera angles.

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It’s unclear whether the additional footage includes evidence that will influence any of the 950-plus Jan. 6 criminal cases. But several defendants have said they intend to access the materials, which House Republicans have agreed to facilitate. The Justice Department has yet to indicate whether it, too, will attempt to obtain and review the footage.

At Friday’s hearing, prosecutors opposed Carpenter’s request, saying they had pieced together the “overwhelming” amount of her movements using CCTV footage, leaving only “a matter of seconds” unaccounted for. Carpenter already has access to a “massive” trove of CCTV footage, they noted, and defendants have the ability to request specific camera angles they would like to focus on if they believe they need additional material.

Prosecutors also suggested that they remain largely in the dark about what the cache of footage newly unearthed by McCarthy might include.

“We don’t have what the speaker has,” said assistant U.S. Attorney Christopher Cook, adding, “In any case, there’s always the possibility some information may be out there.”

Prosecutors are required to disclose to defendants any potentially exculpatory evidence they possess — a particularly thorny challenge in Jan. 6 cases as a result of the massive amounts of video evidence captured by Capitol security cameras, policy bodycams, journalists and rioters themselves, who recorded hundreds of hours worth of footage.

But that requirement isn’t limitless, particularly when it comes to evidence that is in the possession of another agency — like the Capitol Police, an arm of Congress — and if courts determine the government has made good-faith efforts to provide as much material as possible to defendants.

Carpenter’s attorneys argued in court Friday that McCarthy’s batch might help fill “gaps” in the footage that would provide context to the actions Carpenter took inside the Capitol. They contended that it might help contextualize some of the actions she took that resulted in the felony charges DOJ lodged, including for obstructing Congress’ proceedings and for participating in a civil disorder. She sought a 60-day delay in her trial, which is set to begin Monday, in order to determine whether any of the new footage might be relevant.

Boasberg agreed that the request was legitimate. Any attorney would want to see a new batch of potentially exculpatory evidence, he said.

“It’s certainly not a frivolous request by any means,” he said.

But Boasberg agreed that the gaps Carpenter’s attorneys described were “minimal” and that the defense lawyers didn’t explain specifically why any additional footage might help Carpenter’s case.

Prosecutors trying the seditious conspiracy case of several leaders of the Proud Boys also recently confronted the issue, when a defense attorney asked the Justice Department whether it would help organize access to the additional footage. Assistant U.S. Attorney Jason McCullough called it a “serious question” and a “serious issue,” but said it was too soon to say how DOJ would be handling the matter.



https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-denies-jan-6-defendant-221618831.html

 

Hey @shootersa why don't you just tell us what is transparent about McCarthy giving 40,000 hours of video to Trucker Carlson? Exactly how is this process transparent?

And in the meantime no sense waiting for an answer that will never come.

Jeffries: ‘No indication’ Capitol Police vetted Jan. 6 footage Tucker Carlson plans to air
by Julia Mueller - 03/05/23 9:51 AM ET

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Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) on Sunday said he has “no indication” that Capitol Police vetted the footage from the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at the U.S. Capitol that Fox News host Tucker Carlson says he plans to air.

Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) gave Carlson access to some 41,000 hours of footage last month in a move widely criticized by Democrats over security concerns.


“I have no indication at this moment that the police have vetted that footage. It is my hope and expectation that that will absolutely occur,” Jeffries said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

“But … here’s the more important issue. President Biden won the election. People on the extreme right know that President Biden won the election. But Donald Trump perpetrated a big lie, that big lie had real consequences. It led to and incited a violent insurrection. And it’s that type of political extremism that we need to move beyond in America,” Jeffries said.

The House Democratic leader stressed the footage “must absolutely be vetted” before it is made public.

“The Jan. 6 insurrection was violent. Approximately 140 officers were seriously injured. A handful of officers died as a result of the events, of the Jan. 6 violent insurrection. There are serious security concerns,” Jeffries said.

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“We’re releasing footage into the public domain in an era where political violence is on the rise, and there are people, including the former president, who fan the flames of extremism.”

Jeffries had previously slammed the move as an “egregious security beach.” Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said McCarthy was “needlessly exposing the Capitol complex to one of the worst security risks since 9/11” in providing the footage to Carlson.


Carlson has teased that he would begin airing some of the footage this week but House Republicans have tried to pump the brakes on releasing it to the public. Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-Ga.), the chair of the House Administration Subcommittee on Oversight, said last week that his panel is working with the sergeant-at-arms and Capitol Police to make sure the footage that is released will not pose a security risk.



https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday...ed-jan-6-footage-tucker-carlson-plans-to-air/

 

Well, but the security footage from the capitol was already discoverable way back when charges were first being filed against those 1,000 or so verimin defendants.
It's pretty basic case law. Prosecutors have an absolute and inescapable obligation to affirmatively share WITH EACH DEFENDANT not only all evidence they have that proves guilt, but also all evidence they are aware of that is exculpatory. (note to despicables, affirmative in this case means do it without being asked, exculpatory means that which tends to show innocence)
That would include not just the security footage that a particular defendant stars in, but all of the footage from that day, and if a defendant can make the case, from the days before and since January 6.

And the Nancy Antoinette star chamber refusal to release that footage, even to the DOJ, EVEN THE FOOTAGE THEY CLAIM AS TOP SECRET is not acceptable excuse. The DOJ probably told every defense attorney that the footage wasn't readily available but would be made available to them if they insisted. But then of course, the defense attorney would be faced with going through 41,000 hours of security tapes. For defendants who, for the most part, can't afford the defense they're getting now. To review footage that wasn't going to change their defense strategy or get their client off the hook.

So unless a defendant can make a real case for what is on the footage they didn't have, even on appeal in liberal DC, the chances of a reversal are pretty slim. And no defense attorney is going to put themselves in a corner that requires they screen 41,000 HOURS of footage on a prayer. Not unless their defendant is Donald Trump and you have say a $1 MILLION dollar advance on your fees.